Ron Roth and his work

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Ron Roth was a widely known modern day teacher of Spiritual Life. He wrote many books, appeared in many places, and had quite a following. He spent many years in the Priesthood of the Catholic Church, until he began exploring the true roots of the spiritual writings given us by The Church. He now teaches independantly, and offers his own program of ordination.

Current information about Ron Roth, his teaching schedule and other activities are at http://www.RonRoth.com/.

As of this writing I have not read any of his books, though I have heard of him. I have spent a total of about 8-10 hours in his presence, for a weekend long set of events. As a healer, with a lot of training and experience in healing, his work is highly impressive, heartfelt, full of truth (as I know it). He makes healing look very easy.

His work centers on the power of prayer, the direct experience of divinity, and the possibilities of immediate healing of any condition. As a healer, myself, I have experienced this in my own life and the lives of those I've touched. At the same time, only rarely have I seen change happen so easily and dramatically as demonstrated by the healings I saw Ron perform this weekend. Indeed, his work is very impressive.

Books, Videos, Tapes, etc

Holy Spirit for Healing: Merging Ancient Wisdom With Modern Medicine by Ron Roth, Peter Occhiogrosso

Prayer and Spirit As Energy Medicine cassette by Ron Roth

Healing Prayers audio CD by Ron Roth

The Healing Path of Prayer: A Modern Mystic's Guide to Spiritual Power by Ron Roth, Peter Occhiofrosso

Holy Spiritby Ron Roth, Peter Occhiogrosso

Prayer and the Five Stages of Healing by Peter Occhiogrosso, Ron, Phd Roth

Reclaiming Your Spiritual Power: Making the Connection with Source of All Healing audio cassette by Ron Roth (Author) ([amazon-item:0743528646|or as audio CD])

Sacred Encounters with Mary by G. Scott Sparrow, Ron Roth

The Dark Night of the Soul: A Sacred Journey to Joy and Enlightenment audio cassette by Ron Roth

Reclaim Your Spiritual Power by Ron Roth, Peter Occhiogrosso

I Want to See Jesus in a New Light: Healing Reflections for People of All Faiths by Ron, Ph.D. Roth, Peter Occhiogrosso

Navigating the DarK Night by Caroline Myss, Ron, Roth

Invoking the Sacred for Healing, Guidance, Abundance & Relationships (Recorded Live!) by Caroline Myss, Ron Roth

Sacred Healing: The Curing Power of Energy and Spirituality by C. Norman Shealy, Caroline Myss (Ron Roth is mentioned in one chapter)

Translations and Language

Ron's teaching is very scholarly at the same time as it is full of spirit and life. He discussed a little how, in his process of going from being a regular Catholic priest, to working independantly, he studied deeply the most original spiritual writings he could find. Not only from the Christian tradition, but also the Kaballistic and Buddhist traditions. It is important to remember that the two source languages of original spiritual writing are Aramaic and Sanskrit, not English, and that for the various writings to reach us in our modern lives, to people who speak English, these writings were translated many times. To Hebrew, Greek, Latin, Middle English, and now Modern English.

As they say, "a little was lost in the translation".

Translation of any writing, even when both writers are modern to each other, is a difficult task. The different languages vary in grammar, word meaning (semantics), and mindset. Translation errors have no doubt caused wars.

Something Ron presented over and over is various sayings from the Bible, their original Aramaic, and his translation of that Aramaic. For every one, the original words translate to a very different concept than what we read in the modern English translations of the Bible. If Ron is right, translation errors of the Bible have caused much more than wars, but also the spiritual misleading of billions of people over the last 2,000 years.

Before we get to Ron, let's take a glance at another Bible translation. The Peshitta Bible is an Aramaic-language Bible kept by the Christians of the Middle East, and it has never been translated from the original language.

George Lamsa was an Assyrian man, spoke Aramaic as his mothers tongue, and raised in a Christian culture who kept the original traditions from ancient times. He made his translation using very early Biblical texts in the Aramaic language (from the 5th century A.D. and earlier), and given his background is uniquely suited to this translation.

The point of mentioning this is the kind of translation differences. There are a few mentioned in the preface to my copy:

Verse Peshitta Bible (Lamsa translation) King James Bible
Genesis 30:8 And Rachel said, I have besought the LORD and pleaded with my sister... And Rachel said, with great wrestlings I have wrestled with my sister...
Numbers 25:4 And the LORD said to Moses, take all the chiefs of the people and expose them before the LORD in the daylight And the LORD said unto Moses, take all the heads of the people, and hang them up before the LORD against the Sun ...
Deuteronomy 27:16 Cursed be he who reviles his father or his mother... Cursed be he that setteth light by his father or his mother...
Deuteronomy 32:33 Their venom is the venom of dragons, and the cruel venom of asps. Their wine is the poison of dragons, and the cruel venom of asps.
Samuel 4:6 And behold, they came into the midst of the house; then those sons of wickedness took and smote him in his abdomen... And they came thither into the midst of the house, as though they would have fetched wheat; and they smote him under the fifth rib...
Kings 4:28 Then she said, did I ask a son of my lord? Did I not say to you, do you not ask a son for me? Then she said, Did I desire a son of my lord, did I not say Do not deceive me?
Job 19:18 Yea, even the wicked despise me; when I rise they speak against me... Yea, young children despised me; I arose and they spake against me...
Job 29:18 Then I said I shall become straight like a reed, I shall deliver the poor and multiply my days like the sand of the seas. Then I said, I shall die in my nest, and I shall multiply my days as the sand.
Psalm 144:7,11 7 Stretch forth thy hand from above; deliver me out of great waters from the hand of the ungodly,

11 Deliver me from the hand of the wicked, whose mouths speak vanity, and their right hand is a right hand of falsehood,

7 Send thine hand from above; rid me, and deliver me out of great waters, from the hand of strange children;

11 Rid me, and deliver me from the hand of strange children, whose mouth speaketh vanity, and their right hand is a right hand of falsehood;

Proverbs 11:14 A people who have no leader shall fall; but in the multitude of counsels there is deliverance. Where no counsel is, the people fall; but in the multitude of counselors there is safety.
Ecclesiastes 2:4 I multiplied my servents ... I made me great works
Ecclesiastes 11:5 As you do not know the path of the wind, and the manner of a woman who is with child... As thou knowest not what is the way of the spirit, nor how the bones do grow in the womb of her that is with child...
Isaiah 7:14 Therefore the LORD himself shall give you a sign; behold a virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel. Therefore the LORD himself shall give you a sign; Behold a virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.
Isaiah 10:27 ... and the yoke shall be destroyed from your neck because of your strength. ... and the yoke shall be destroyed because of the anointing.
Matthew 19:24 Again I say to you, it is easier for a rope to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God. And again I say unto you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.

Most of what's given here are minor changes that likely don't affect the meaning and message very much. In a way it is amazing that even after all the translations that went into creating the King James Bible (not to mention the political shenanigans), that the words come so close to one another. However, there is another verse which really illustrates the problem, and which Ron Roth mentioned specifically.

The Lords Prayer is the most known part of the Bible, and generally if people know no other prayer, they will know this one. In a way, this one part of the Bible is critical as it is directly Jesus instructing us in Prayer. What the King James Bible translates as And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil Lamsa instead translates as And do not let us enter into temptation but deliver us from evil.

There is a very different meaning to this. In the King James bible, the words imply that God is going to tempt us with Evil, presumably so that he can catch us in a trap, judge us as Bad, and throw us in Hell. Think about it, isn't that the popular image of God, that he's this old guy in a big chair watching us all very closely waiting for the slightest mistake, for which we will burn in hell forever? Is such an image of God one who is infinitely loving? Wouldn't an infinitely loving God be one we could count on to keep us from our own temptations (as the Aramaic says)? How would modern society be if we weren't all taught as children to fear God, but to love God? If we were taught God was a helper, wanted the best for us, was there to strengthen and guide us, rather than the message we received of a God of Judgement, smoting those he did not like, and ready with punishment at a moments notice.

Ron's translation goes even further than Lamsa's to be entirely different in message. Instead of presenting God as this external being, Ron's translation of the Lords Prayer (and other words and phrases) is more in the flavor of us all being God, that we are each a spark of God, and that our true identity and God's true identity are one and the same.

This message comes through many spiritual writings from such things as [amazon-item:0960638881|A Course In Miracles] all the way back to ancient Buddhist writings (and others). However, this message is most definitely not the one taught by modern mainstream Christianity. All due to some mis-translation? Perhaps.

Teachings and Healing Demonstration

For this section one has to recall that, as of this writing, I have only witnessed Ron Roth for about 8-10 hours. Given this great depth of knowledge and expertise (that is, basically zero) I will proceed to tell you all I know about him and his teachings. Shouldn't be long, and if I manage to whet your appetite, there is a list of books and other materials above.

First, his presence of being is truly phenomenal. A year and a half ago he had suffered a Stroke, but you would not know this by looking at him (if he had not mentioned it). He was lively, talkative, spoke well and clearly, his face was strong and bright, laughing, cheerful, moving around very well. Further, there was a palpable sense of divine presence many times during the lectures.

Paraphrasing Ron: The vast majority of us live unconsciously. We ignore kerjillions of divine signals that could guide us to total enlightenment. Instead we expect divine signals to come in a specific form (a voice louder than anything speaking from on high), and there is the fearful image of God we all share. If God is to be feared, then is he one to ask advice of?

In other words, what are we to do with God? Is God truly that omnipotent judge who's going to banish us to Hell for the slightest transgression? How are we to tell? Ought we take the Priests word for it, or should we explore for our own? If we start to explore on our own, how can we work with God directly?

Ron's message is that we can enter into a direct dialogue with God. Now, right here is where he must have split severely with The Church, as the modus operandi of the Catholic Religion is that it is the Priest who interprets the Word of God, and it is only the Priest who can tell us what God says. By having a direct dialogue with God, the Authority of the Priest is undermined, isn't it? The basic underpinning of the whole Catholic Religion is that Authority, and supposedly without that Authority the whole facade of the Church will crumble.

Aside: A 1999 movie, [amazon-item:6305718954|Stigmata], explored this exact question very well.

A number of times he gave this model: "I talk with God" and "God talks with Me". In other words, we can enter into a conversation with the Divine Presence (God). We can ask questions, and God will (does) answer. In fact, God generally answers immediately, but getting back to the claim that the majority of people live uncoscious of what goes on around them, the answer is not heard, or is misinterpreted.

My belief is that there is obviously a role for a Priesthood, even if we talk directly with God. There is always going to be some who are more interested in talking with God than others are, and they will naturally develop a lot of wisdom and expertise. Both of which are highly valued (witness the Guru worship as happens in India). The Priests need not fear that their congregations are going to make fun of the Priests if the congregation talks directly with God.

The next piece of Ron's message is about commanding Divine power. Not only can we talk directly with God, but in truth we can embody Divinity in our own right. After all, that is exactly what Ron is doing when he heals people. His purpose for giving healings is to demonstrate the power of Divinity, and to demonstrate that we all are capable of acting with this same level of Divinity.

We have to be careful here about the wording. By "commanding Divine power" this does not mean a display of will, where the human person tells God what to do. Instead what's meant is to embody Divine will, to embody Divinity, and act as if you yourself are God. There are meny other sources giving the same message, so Ron is not unique in offering this teaching.

That he demonstrates it so well is what makes his message so good, as the demonstration tends to erase doubts. Any time you simply "believe" something, the belief is riddled with doubts (simple psychological observation here). But if you have EXPERIENCED the thing yourself, seen it with your own eyes, or directly experienced it with your own body and beingness, then the belief becomes knowledge, and then it is unshakable.

The last thing I am going to discuss is the purpose of Pain. Ron mentioned numerous times an idea, a way of interpreting the Will of God. Would a Parent purposely damage their child? Would a Parent purposely cause suffering, malnutrition, or any other lack, in their child? Why, no, they wouldn't. So why would God do so? Yet the common statement (belief) is "Oh, x/y/z is God's will" as the patient is lying there in tremendous pain, tubes every which way. Ron's statement is that Pain is merely a signal that something is out of balance.

In other words, the Divine self would have no pain, only a joyous experience of life. The pain comes from us, our psyche, and the creations we make with our psyche in belief that we can do it better than God can.

So let's think about that for a moment. Say you burn your finger on the stove, and it hurts, it's blistering, and is nigh on agony. The psyche says to Ron, "bullcrap, that pain is happening because I burned my finger, and now it'll take 3 days of suffering for it to heal, and it'll be stiff for another 2 weeks after that, and it might even scar". And, yes, from a purely physical point of view the belief stated is correct, because that is how physical body troubles heal when using the means of the material plane. There is a different way, though, one that I have directly experienced and performed for myself a number of times.

Ron's message is that the Divine self can look at that burn, and change it in a twinkling of the eye. The way I have experienced this, specifically for burned fingers, is that there are a few things happening at the same time in a burn (or any other damage). One is that the tissue is frightened, as individual cells have perhaps died, and there is a general alarm that the whole body might die. Another is that the tissue does become damaged, and that this damage extends to the etheric body. Another is that there's a crying out in pain that needs to be expressed, and making an honest expression of pain will release that need. These weave together in making the burn, the pain, the tender skin, the blisters, etc. If one approaches this as Divinity, the emothional fright can be released easily, the crying out in pain can as well be released, and once those are released the etheric body damage is easily repaired, which will support an immediate (or very quick) shift in the physical body. Instead of many days of pain, there is often zero pain, and few other symptoms (especially if you can get to the burn immediately).

In other words, we are living in a sea of beliefs tied to material existance. Only a portion of who we are is that material being, only our bodies are material. The rest is our psyche and spirit, and those parts of us operate by a different set of rules, and are much more malleable than the material stuff of our bodies. By directly experiencing the Divine, we begin to know this for ourselves. As we practice being Divine, it grows within us, becoming more of a daily experience in our life